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8.5 Determining Threat

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Ravn
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When determining threat against multiple targets in the combat phase, the rules state that the formation deducts its full(?) fatigue penalty against each target. That seems very excessive? At the very least it makes large formations deployed on a wide front very vulnerable against multiple targets whether attacking or defending.

It then has one base D6 +1D6/9 threat and adds the commander threat to each target.

We added dice - both the base and any 9+ dice to each seperate target. Was that incorrect? And if so, how do you divide the base D6 for the formation?

Thanks!


   
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To clarify, we added the base D6 against each target and are unsure if that’s correct.


   
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Posted by: @ravn

When determining threat against multiple targets in the combat phase, the rules state that the formation deducts its full(?) fatigue penalty against each target. That seems very excessive? At the very least it makes large formations deployed on a wide front very vulnerable against multiple targets whether attacking or defending.

It then has one base D6 +1D6/9 threat and adds the commander threat to each target.

Subtracting Fatigue from the Threat against each target is consistent with providing a base 1D6 against each target and adding the Formation Commander's Bonus against each target. You get all the benefits and all the detriments.

Why does it seem excessive? The Threatening Formation receives both its Formation-level advantages and disadvantages.

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We added dice - both the base and any 9+ dice to each seperate target. Was that incorrect? And if so, how do you divide the base D6 for the formation?

To clarify, we added the base D6 against each target and are unsure if that’s correct.

Not sure I follow but I think there's some misunderstanding so let me walk through an example.

 

The Threatening Formation determines the Threat against each target it Threatens, so if one of your Formations Threatens two enemy Formations, you compute the Threat against each of the targets, including deducting your Formation's Fatigue, and adding the Formation Commander's Bonus at each range it applies. And then you will roll 1D6+1D6/9 Threat against that target.

 

A Formation has 10 Infantry Battalions and 1 Artillery Battery, and no Fatigue.

Threatening Target A:

4 Infantry Battalions at contact with Threat 3 each

1 Artillery Battery at 900 yards range with Threat 2

The Formation Commander adds +1 Threat at contact and +1 Threat at 900 yards for a total of +2 Bonus Threat

Threat against Target A is 16+2D6.

Threatening Target B:

6 Infantry Battalions at contact with Threat 3 each

The Formation Commander adds +1 Threat at contact for a total of +1 Bonus Threat

Threat against Target B is 19+3D6.

 

If the Threatening Formation had 3 Fatigue, it would be subtracted when summing the Threat against each target, so the Threat against Target A would become 13+2D6 and the Threat against Target B would become 16+2D6.

 

That make sense?

-David


   
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Indeed it does! Thanks for the quick reply. The excessive bit was in part because it was an enthusiastic formation with 10 fatigue and 12 cohesion just barely hanging on, but I can see that this is after all still a spent formation at this point.

At least we played correctly so far then 🙂


   
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